bliss: it could not be said beter. you are 100% correct. john
johnny cip
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Why Would Anyone Defend Jehovah's Witnesses??????????
by minimus inevery so often, i will read on this board, how some people will defend and apologize for what jws do or believe in.....i just don't get it.
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New JW Scam?? Here in Australia...
by TheApostleAK init's good to be back on here.... ok, is anyone aware of this particular scam that seems to be big here in adelaide, south australia.
i've heard a couple of times were jw's have befriended old people (particularly one's that live by themselves) and get them to a) join up or b) become good friends with them.
after being friends for a while the jw's 'suggest', 'coax' etc, to the old timer to put them down (the jw's) on their will.
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johnny cip
xq's ; please stop making excuses , that the wt uses laws to thier favor. i thought they were god's gov't . you just don't pull that kind of crap. and call your self a christian . i see right through it. any one that goes after $$$$$$$$$ in these areas, is not even respectable, forget about being godly. i don't care what you say. john
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Why Would Anyone Defend Jehovah's Witnesses??????????
by minimus inevery so often, i will read on this board, how some people will defend and apologize for what jws do or believe in.....i just don't get it.
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johnny cip
it a hard one defending a person that calls you the son of satan. i can't do it. i don't hate jw's but if you cross their line . they hate you. it's a catch 22. it's really the wt to be hated and i agree with what ever gov't like russia are doing to stamp out the wt. they reap what they sow. sorry it needs to nipped at every turn what ever the means. john
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New JW Scam?? Here in Australia...
by TheApostleAK init's good to be back on here.... ok, is anyone aware of this particular scam that seems to be big here in adelaide, south australia.
i've heard a couple of times were jw's have befriended old people (particularly one's that live by themselves) and get them to a) join up or b) become good friends with them.
after being friends for a while the jw's 'suggest', 'coax' etc, to the old timer to put them down (the jw's) on their will.
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johnny cip
xq's no it not a wt originated scam. but they use it.. neither is mind control. ther mave been to many documented cases. on this kind of scam etc. that the wt uses to rob young and old if thier $$$$$$$$$$ , life, etc. just read the nov and dec 2003 wt's . it's clear the wt don't take the high raod, a legal paper signed my a lawyer don't make it right. and they know it. john
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New JW Scam?? Here in Australia...
by TheApostleAK init's good to be back on here.... ok, is anyone aware of this particular scam that seems to be big here in adelaide, south australia.
i've heard a couple of times were jw's have befriended old people (particularly one's that live by themselves) and get them to a) join up or b) become good friends with them.
after being friends for a while the jw's 'suggest', 'coax' etc, to the old timer to put them down (the jw's) on their will.
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johnny cip
this is an old wt scam. they been doing this for decades. better know as the old divide and concur. there was something on the web about this guy that had 100's of millions he married a jw, they got divorced, the wt sent lawyers to court for her . ended up taking most if this guys money . i think this was in deleware. all this if true took years . with wt help. i'm sure someone else here remembers reading this. i can't seen to find it. but it was long very long. john
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I figured out the date for Armageddon
by gitasatsangha inits controvertable, so sell your house and stock options and give them to me so you might spend moer time warning others of our loving god's plans to annihilate them on 2031. here you go: .
perhaps they will have new lite soon that the symbolic forty years and forty days in the wildernes was symbollic of 40,400 days because to god a thousand years is like a day so a week is like, therefore which is 110 years after 1914 is sometime in 2024 that they will no longer accept any new annointed claims.
40*365=14600+40=14640days of drinking and being merry (last hurrah for newly annointed ones): .
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johnny cip
would make a great questions from the readers. would you mind if i send it in to the wt?
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I figured out the date for Armageddon
by gitasatsangha inits controvertable, so sell your house and stock options and give them to me so you might spend moer time warning others of our loving god's plans to annihilate them on 2031. here you go: .
perhaps they will have new lite soon that the symbolic forty years and forty days in the wildernes was symbollic of 40,400 days because to god a thousand years is like a day so a week is like, therefore which is 110 years after 1914 is sometime in 2024 that they will no longer accept any new annointed claims.
40*365=14600+40=14640days of drinking and being merry (last hurrah for newly annointed ones): .
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johnny cip
makes a lot more sense; than anything jcanon posts. an can all be done on pencil and paper. i like it were do i send my title to my house. john
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bethel tour today. what a joke
by johnny cip ini drive past patterson about once a month.
and read here about tours there.
so i stopped.
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johnny cip
one other thing . when i left it was 12 noon . lunch time. there was some jw families on the tour. that were sitting on the grass in front of the lobby/parking lot having picnic lunch out of a cooler. just like in the wt books. you would think the wt could at least invite them to lunch . who knows how far these families drove to go on their pilgramage to mecca. what better spritual food could there be , than to eat with jehoover's bethel family. it would be a great wt pr move. then again i'm sure they have more to hide what really goes on at these dining rooms. they have to have 100 t.v. monitors on the walls there. i asked if jascarz still gets up and rants and raves before breakfast. and what time does mtv come on. john
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bethel tour today. what a joke
by johnny cip ini drive past patterson about once a month.
and read here about tours there.
so i stopped.
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johnny cip
yes the watchtower waterfall , struck me as an idol. along with thier clock tower. i joked if the annointed wash their feet in the holy water. what really got me was , every door is locked. with some kind of electronic lock that uses a real key. if the power went off, due to a fire etc. i would think they would all be locked in. it's a wierd place, everyone walks around with a 3 mile smile. like their in some kind of spritual paradise. at least that's what they let the public see.. john
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bethel tour today. what a joke
by johnny cip ini drive past patterson about once a month.
and read here about tours there.
so i stopped.
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johnny cip
yes dan : i kept bringing up the amount of donations for the world wide preaching work. they dumped into building this so called education center. or as he put it. a self contained city. he made a big deal about how they generate thier own electricity. i told him how the wt accepted $48,000 from the new york gov't to help build that power plant. in bed with babylon. he tried to say the electric co. would fine them each month if they didn't produce their own electric. i started laughing, the electric co loves selling their product. now they have to buy back any extra power the wt generates. $$$$$$$$$$ next i started on the selling of buildings in brooklyn, and how they wanted to build 4 towers with 1000 luxury condo's on jay st.since they are moving to patterson and wallkill. who going to live there? were is all this $$$$$$$$$$ coming from. yes BABYFACE i asked about retirement. no such thing , i told him about the bro that lost his hand in the printing press. the wt gave him a bus ticket home. and the spanish translators that were thrown out of bethel after 20+ years penny less because they had some questions. i told him flat out, i guess your pretty much stuck here. the best one was how he bragged about the free room and board. but said they had to buy their own furniture. and showed me pictures of beautifully furnished room. they looked like those time share models. i asked at $110 a month it would take 5-10 years to save enough to furnish a room like that. i said it must be a gb member room . he didn't answer . he showed me pictures of their auto mechanic shop. i said who could afford a car at $110 A month. i went right into circuit leasing. how the cong's pay for a new $28000 buick and then they sell it after 3 years and keep the $$$$$$$$$ . he corrected me it's every 2 years. he wasn't so proud when i said @ 1000 cars every 2 years sold for $15000 each , would be 15 million off the backs of the bro's. and they still have to buy the bishops i mean c.o. a new car.. at the end i started on the child molestion cases vs the wt. went into some detail of about 4 cases. and how the wt did nothing. he tried to say it's all lies . funny the judge didn't think it was all lies when some of these serial molesters .got up to 50 years in prison. and the wt knew about much of this . and told the little girls to wait on jehovah. it's amazing how little these bethelites seem to know, or how much . they are fed propaganda. john